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June 10, 2012 at 2:17 pm #596rshivelyParticipant
I recently found this video on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPgZPCdIIaQ (saam sing jong)It details the use of triangle stepping in a slightly different way than what most people think of how to use the triangle.I found the demo/video to be valuable, if not useful in that insight and inspiration i.e. martial arts training, is an on-going process. I hope you like the video.
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June 12, 2012 at 5:13 am #1476JohnParticipant
Very cool find! A unique perspective I hadn't seen before. It looked like Wing Chun with a trimmed down version of the number of poles used in Bagua's Forest Palms. As a training device, I really like the idea of those poles. Thanks for pointing the video out!John
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June 14, 2012 at 7:07 pm #1477Sihing73Participant
Wing Chun has a few different types of dummies or Jongs for training. The Mok Yan Jong which is the traditional dummy. There is the Tripodal Dummy which is essentially three posts placed in the ground. The Plum Flower Steps which is Five Posts driven into the ground in the flower patern one center post and four outer posts representing the petals. These can be combined into more than one so that there are different designs thus greater fotwork patterns. There is also a Bamboo Dummy which has up to nine "arms" projecting from it for training. Of course with the modern age there are also "Chi Sau" dummies as well. The Tripodal Dummy and Plum Blossom posts are traditional and help with footwork and also practicing kicks.
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June 15, 2012 at 3:44 am #1478JohnParticipant
Thanks for the explanation! I have only ever heard of the Mook Jong. Are the others used in Yip Man's lineage as well, or are they from other lineages?John
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June 16, 2012 at 12:58 pm #1479Sihing73Participant
Hi John,The traditional Mook Yan, the Tripodal and Plum Blossom poles are all found in Yip Mans lineage. I believe Augustine Fong, or some of his students have the poles inserted in the ground at one of the schools in AZ. The tripodal dummy is normally three upright posts which form a triangle. A practicianer can practice kicks as well as footwork/moving steps/stances. Normally the height of the posts is about 5-6 feet. The plum blossom posts can be only a foot off the ground or several feet. Depending on the height of the posts one may also be able to practice kids as well. In some instances the height of the poles will be somewhat higher to allow balance training in a more intense manner. In some advance cases the poles will be of different hights which puts another stress on blance and footwork. You can substitute paint cans for the poles for the plum blossom poles. Practice stepping on them to improve balance and practice footwork. As to the Bamboo Dummy this is not found in Yip Mans lineage, as far as I know, but in the Sum Nung family. I do not think it is seen or practice outside of that family, but I could be mistaken. Dave
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June 20, 2012 at 2:04 am #1480rshivelyParticipant
I did a little digging on google about the bamboo dummy from the Sum Nung family. I found this video on you tubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oFp0lksDlc&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL266939E33DF0E161Also, when I googled my search, I used the image portion of the search engine. If the pictures were accurate, then the bamboo dummy has multiple arms, which are quite flexible allowing for chi sao practice.here is a 2nd video on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo922dJmFKE&feature=relmfuIn addition, here is a "chi-sao" dummy demonstrated on you tube, parts 1 & 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JafOm-ApE&feature=channel&list=ULhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYAf3sUcUzI&feature=channel&list=ULThanks for mentioning the different wing chun dummies!
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